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Relying on the tremendous speed and agility of their mounts to deliver singular killing power, the Praetorian Ferox serve as a formidable forward strike force. The ferox mounts leap forward with fierce grace toward any exposed enemy flank, or close fearlessly against the front line. The relationship between ferox and rider is not one of affection, nor is it similar to the bond shared between western riders and tamed horses. Rather, it is a wary respect between two skilled killers.
Basic Info
| Praetorian Ferox |
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| COST |
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| UNIT SIZE |
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| FA |
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| Warcaster 0 |
| BASE |
Large |
| SPD |
8 |
| STR |
7 |
| MAT |
6 |
| RAT |
N/A |
| M.A. |
N/A |
| DEF |
13 |
| ARM |
17 |
| CMD |
9 |
| ESSENCE |
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| FOCUS |
N/A |
| FURY |
N/A |
| THRS |
N/A |
| HP |
5 |
| F. Field |
N/A |
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| WJP |
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| WBP |
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| IHP |
{{{ihp}}} |
| FA |
2 |
| UNIT SIZE |
3 / 5 |
| COST |
11 / 17 |
| 3.66 each |
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| Warcaster 1 |
| COST |
N/A |
| N/A |
Understanding
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Abilities
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Cavalry
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Combined Melee Attack
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Pathfinder
- Jump - After it makes a full advance during its Normal Movement but before it performs its Combat Action, you can place this model anywhere completely within 5" of its current location. Any effects that prevent charging also prevent this model from using Jump.
- Pounce - During an activation in which this model was placed as a result of using the Jump ability, it gains +2 to melee attack and damage rolls.
- Reposition [3"] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3", then its activation ends.
- Steady - This model cannot become knocked down.
Weapons
- Cavalry Spear - 2" reach, POW 5, P+S 12 melee attack
- Brutal Charge - This model gains +2 to charge attack damage rolls with this weapon.
- Mount - 0.5" reach, POW 12 mount attack
Theme Forces
Recent Changes
2021.10 Mega Update
- Points cost dropped to 11/17 (from 12/20)
- Pounce is now a model ability, instead of a weapon ability on the Mount weapon.
- Pounce now gives +2/+2 to both weapons, instead of boosted damage to just the Mount weapon.
Thoughts on Praetorian Ferox
Praetorian Ferox in a Nutshell
Praetorian Ferox are considered to be the best heavy cavalry unit in Hordes by many, and they are second only to the Storm Lances for the "Best cavalry in the game" title too. They sport the same, respectable defensive stats, with the added bonus to be immune to knockdown effects. Though they lack ranged attacks, thanks to Jump they threat up to 15" all on their own. With built-in Pathfinder rough terrain rarely means any problem, and though their MAT is only average, they have various tools to fix that. Also, most of the time at least one of the damage rolls will be boosted - either the pounce or the charge attack. Reposition is just the icing on the cake, giving you a very flexible and mobile - if somewhat expensive - unit.
Combos & Synergies
- Tyrant Rhadeim - The leader of the Ferox, and a near-mandatory choice due to his Veteran Leader. Dodge can also be a surprise for enemy gunlines, luring the ferox lines closer with every missed shot.
- Mortitheurge Willbreaker - Expensive and steady? No Knockdown Tough means that they are significantly harder to kill. Also, Flesh Hardening can remove pesky corrosion and fire effects that are often used to take the last remaining box of the models, who passed their Tough checks eariler.
- Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer - extra inches on a walk-and-pounce is extra threat range.
- Supreme Aptimus Zaal - Last Stand on Ferox kills casters. Especially with the new Pounce rules.
- Zaal, the Ancestral Advocate - anything that boosts their attack rolls can kill casters.
- Supreme Archdomina Makeda - no, really, anything. Between Dash and her feat you can squash a fair number of casters with flying cats. And they are a great choice for Stay Death. There are reasons one of the best pre-errata Skorne lists was Makeda2 with two units of Ferox.
- Tyrant Xerxis - Has Defender's Ward to make them very resilient, and has a feat and a battle plan to make them capable of very high damage.
- Void Seer Mordikaar - feat boosts defense by +3. Further synergy with Tyrant Rhadeim as the boost to defense means Dodge triggers more often.
Drawbacks & Downsides
- High priority targets.
- Elite troops come with a high points cost.
- Need support to crack heavy armour.
- Average MAT, but fortunately have tools to solve it.
Tricks & Tips
- Read the rules clarifications about Jumping. If you can advance only 0" (like under Shadow Bind, or Force Lock), you can still Jump. If you are under an effect that denies placing completely (like Garryth's feat, or the Lock the Target spell), you cannot use Jump.
- There are various tools to shore up your chances against elusive targets. Cavalry charges have boosted attack rolls, CMA can also increase your chance to hit, while Jump is an easy way to acquire the back strike bonus.
- They are very good at killing most supports, but don't hope to kill an exposed caster easily. Their damage output isn't that good.
Other
Trivia
Other Skorne models
Rules Clarifications
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Rules Clarification : Powerful Charge and/or Brutal Charge (Edit)
- If you declare a charge but move less than 3", then the attack doesn't count as a "Charge Attack" and you won't get the bonus.
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Rules Clarification : Pounce - None yet. (Edit)
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Rules Clarification: : Cavalry (Edit)
(Click Expand to read)
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Mount Weapon
- Although the core rulebook specifies mount weapons have 0.5" range, this doesn't "overwrite" models that have a longer mount range listed on their card. (Infernal Ruling)
- Mount Weapons are melee weapons. (Infernal Ruling) This means:
- Mount Attacks can benefit from any buffs that affect "melee weapons" (such as Acidic Touch and Elasticity) or "melee attacks" (such as Battle Lust).
- Mount Weapons can be used to make free strikes.
- If the model doesn't have any regular melee weapon (such as the Gun Carriage) then it does have a melee range, can engage enemy models, and can make free strikes; anyway.
- Despite being a melee weapon, you cannot use a Mount's special attack on the same activation you charge. (Infernal Ruling)
- Exception: If you have Trampling Hooves, because that allows you to make charge attacks with your mount when you charge.
- Mount attacks will trigger "Melee attack" stuff like Battle Wizard.
- You can purchase additional attacks with your Mount Weapon. (Infernal Ruling)
Impact Attacks - Movement
- Impact Attacks "pause" your charge move, and as such don't normally trigger "ends an advance" abilities (such as Countercharge).
- The exception is if your Impact Attacks include your charge target, then you have to end the charge movement and turn to directly face the charge target before rolling any dice. In this case, stuff like Countercharge will get triggered before you get to roll your Impact Attacks.
- You cannot "pause" in an illegal position to carry out Impact Attacks. For instance: a Pathfinder cavalry model pausing halfway over an obstacle; a flying cavalry model pausing while it 'overlaps' other models; or any cavalry model pausing halfway through an Incorporeal model.
Impact Attacks - The attack(s)
- You resolve stuff that occurs "after the attack is resolved" (such as Battle Wizard) before continuing with your charge movement.
- If you have an ability that boosts your "first" melee attack (such as Stir the Blood), then only one attack will be boosted even though you're making multiple simultaneous attacks.
- If you choose to make any impact attacks, you make all attacks against all models in the Mount's melee range (even friendly models).(Infernal Ruling)
- Impact Attacks cannot be boosted, refer core rulebook.
- You cannot buy additional attacks while resolving Impact Attacks. Additional attacks can only be bought during your Combat Action, after resolving your initial melee attack(s) / special melee attack.
Impact Attacks - Other
- You cannot use "any time" abilities while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement; and you can only use 'any time' abilities before moving or after moving, but not during movement. (Infernal Ruling)
- Exception: If your Impact targets include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities.
Cavalry unit
- If you have a unit of Cavalry, charge them and do impact attacks, remember you interrupt movement to do impacts, but you have to resolve all movements before doing any charge attacks. So for example it would go:
- Cavalry model A charges enemy X, and contacts model M. Stop and make impact attacks against M. Then continue movement to X.
- Cavalry model B charges enemy Y, and contacts model N. Stop and make impact attacks against N. Then continue movement to Y.
- Cavalry model C charges enemy Z, and contacts model O. Stop and make impact attacks against O. Then continue movement to Z.
- Resolve model A's charge attack vs X, B's vs Y, and C's vs Z. (This can be done in any order, as per normal)
Other interactions
- Cavalry model with no melee weapon
- If you have a Mount weapon but no regular Melee weapon (such as the Efaarit Scout), you can still declare a charge. (Locked thread)
- You can make Impact Attacks along the way.
- Once you get to the charge target, however, you can't make a melee attack against it. Because you can't use the mount weapon for a charge attack, due to the way the Cavalry rules are written. (Unless you have a rule like Trampling Hooves.)
- If you don't charge, the mount attack can be used as an initial melee attack.
- Countercharge & Cavalry ( Edit )
- A model with Countercharge and Cavalry can make Impact Attacks during the countercharge. (Refer "Charges Outside of Activation" in the rulebook).
- Warcaster/Warlock Cavalry ( Edit )
- Warcasters/Warlocks can't cast spells or use their feat while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement - you can use spells or feat before moving, or after moving, but not during movement.
- Exception: If your Impact target(s) include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities before starting the Impact attacks.
- Flight on a Cavalry model (Edit)
- Although flyers can move over obstacles/models, and horses can pause to do impacts while charging, flying horses cannot make impact attacks while overlapping models/obstacles. You need to pause in a legal position.
- Gunfighter & Cavalry ( Edit )
- A cavalry model that charges then makes a Gunfighter attack will not gain a boosted charge attack roll, because a ranged attack is not a charge attack. (Infernal Ruling)
- You also won't gain a boosted charge damage roll, as per normal for a Gunfighter.
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Rules Clarification : Combined Melee Attack (Edit)
- Each CMA only counts as a single attack, no matter how many participants are involved. This means, for example, that if Satyxis Raiders damage a warjack and trigger their Feedback ability, the enemy warcaster will only take 1 damage total, not 1 for every Raider.
- Any bonuses (such as back strike) or penalties (such as intervening terrain) are determined according to the model leading the CMA (the attack leader).
- If the participants have buffs/debuffs but the attack leader doesn't ... then the CMA doesn't because only the attack leader matters. Simple as that.
- A single unit can perform multiple CMAs, utilising different groupings of models. eg a unit with 10 models could make one 10-man CMA, or two 5-man CMAs, or five 2-man CMAs, or etc.
- CMA for units that have more than one melee weapon (the short version)
- Once you have more than one melee weapon, charging becomes a bit complicated. There are two important rules:
- A model which charges must use its first attack to make a charge attack. It can't "skip ahead" to contributing its second non-charge attack before it's resolved its first attack.
- For a CMA to gain the charging bonus, then all contributors must be contributing a charge attack.
- These two rules have a few, slightly confusing implications. Click the expand box below for a full breakdown.
| CMA for units with more than one weapon (the long version) (Edit)
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The following example is about Satyxis Raiders, but is equally applicable to other units with two CMA:
- Each Raider gets two attacks. Both, one, or neither can be a CMA as you choose.
- If you are doing two CMA in a row, then you should note that the second CMA doesn’t have to use the same “primary attacker” or the same “participants” as the first CMA.
- For instance, you could have the first CMA with raider A being the "primary attacker" and raider B being the "participant",
- then for the second CMA have raider B the "primary attacker" and raider A the "participant".
- Or leave A alone for a moment and use B plus C. Whatever takes your fancy.
- Primary attackers and participants don't have to use the same weapon. So, continuing with the above example, you could have primary A use lash and participant B use horns, then primary B use lash and participant A use horns. Effectively granting you two lash attacks with CMA bonuses!
- Combined Melee Attack and charging
- Remember the 2 rules above?
- Rule 1 means you cannot contribute your second, non-charge attack before you have resolved/contributed your first attack.
- Rule 1 means you cannot "skip ahead" to resolving your second, non-charge attack before you have resolved/contributed your first attack.
- but wait, there's more!
- However, thanks to the "Units with Combined Melee Attack ignore the rule that one trooper's combat action cannot begin until the previous model's combat action ends" rule, you can "pause" your second attack if you want to do a CMA with it later. For example:
- Model A performs its charge attack.
- Model B performs its charge attack. (Interrupting A)
- Model C performs its charge attack. (Interrupting B)
- CMA using A, B & C's remaining attack.
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Rules Clarification : Bounding Leap and/or Jump and/or Leap (Edit)
- You cannot use this ability if you forfeit your movement, because "After making a full advance" is a conditional requirement. (Infernal Ruling)
- You can only use this ability after a full advance, which means you can't do it after a Slam, Trample, or Charge.
- You can use "At any time" abilities between completing your move and doing the Jump/Leap. (Infernal Ruling)
- Jumps & Leaps are a "placement". They do not trigger free strikes, and you can even jump over solid buildings of infinite height.
- If you cannot advance more than 0" (for example suffering from Shadow Bind) then you can Jump/Leap. Making an advance of 0" is sufficient to trigger Jump/Leap.
- Jump only
You cannot use Jump if you are suffering "any effect which prevents charging". So...
- If you forfeit your Normal Movement, you cannot Jump. (For the same reason as given above.)
- If you forfeit your Combat Action, you cannot Jump. (Infernal Ruling)
- If you "cannot make attacks" (such as with Morvahna1's feat), you cannot charge, therefore cannot Jump. (Locked Thread)
- Unit with Jump
- Complete all the models' Normal Movement before starting any Jumps. Then do all Jumps (that you can do and/or want to do) before starting any Combat Actions. (Infernal Ruling)
- Models in a unit can Jump even if they don't receive a Press Forward order (failing to be told to charge is not the same as being prevented from charging). (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Reposition (Edit)
- Models out of formation cannot move via Reposition. Refer to the "Out of Formation" rules in the core rulebook.
- End of Activation (Edit)
- You cannot resolve two end-of-activation movement effects (refer to "End of Activation Movement" in the core rulebook). For EOA stuff that doesn't involve movement, though, it gets a bit more murky:
- Some EOA abilities explicitly state your activation ends as part of resolving the ability (like Reposition), and some don't (like Refuge).
- Whether it is explicit it or not, by definition an EOA ability is the last thing you can do for that activation. For instance, if you resolve Refuge and then continue your activation to cast more spells, then you have not used Refuge at the end of your activation.
- You cannot do an "at any time" ability during or after triggering an EOA ability; you cannot cast spells, purchase additional attacks, use a mini-feat, etc.
- If you start resolving an EOA movement (such as Reposition) then you cannot trigger abilities that occur "at any time" (such as Go To Ground). Because you can't trigger it while resolving the EOA movement, and after the EOA movement your activation has ended. (Infernal Ruling)
- For units: if any model in the unit starts resolving the unit's EOA movement, then no model in the unit can trigger an any-time ability. (Infernal Ruling)
- See also the training article: LPG - End of Activation.
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Rules Clarification : Steady (Edit)
- If you are hit by a knockdown effect during your own turn then ... nothing happens. Unless it was a Slam or a Throw that knocked you down.
In that situation, there is a core rule that says "models immune to knockdown that become knocked down from a slam or throw must forfeit either movement or action when they activate". But that core rule doesn't apply to other knockdowns (lots of players assume it does)
- Steady models are still susceptible to other effects of knock-down attacks (if there are any). For instance, a Head Butt attack causes damage and knockdown - a Steady model would still take the damage.
- A knocked down model that gains Steady will remain knocked down, because the "cannot be knocked down" is not retroactively applied.
- Steady models who make a tough check during an advance can continue advancing. (Locked Thread)
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