Spells (Stonekeeper)
Theme Forces
Recent Changes
2021 10 Mega Update
Thoughts on Shifting Stones
Shifting Stones in a Nutshell
The Shifting Stones are fury management, heal your models, let your models teleport, and generally provide a lot of flexibility. You can even take them in every theme, so you should always have at least 1 unit.
Thoughts on adding the CA
The Stone Keeper is odd. But he is very cheap to include in an army. The positives for taking him are...
- He increases the units CMD tremendously, allowing them to spread out their healing ability and more easily get a model into the teleportation triangle.
- He can also trigger the healing due to the wording
- He grants the unit Prowl and is the only model in the unit with attacks.
The Negatives are...
- The stones don't especially care about prowl, since they are hard to shoot off the table already, though it does make it harder for opponents to pick off a lone stone.
- his spells aren't very useful, either they prevent him from getting picked off, or they provide a not particularly accirate short range AOE with a crit knockdown. If the unit is close enough to use that, something has probably gone wrong.
- He increases the units cost by 33% without really improving the bits that make the shifting stones good.
Combos & Synergies
- Any beatstick likes to be teleported straight into the enemy's face. Charging is better if you can since most opponents won't leave a better opening for you to teleport into though. Wold Guardians are the only beasts that gain any additional distance over charging from being teleporte
- Construct warbeasts. Healing them is especially useful, and they can struggle to remove fury since they can't frenzy.
- Morvahana2 & Baldur2 - both are very likely to hurt themselves and enjoy consistent healing.
Stone Keeper Synergies
Although he isn't game breaking the Stone Keeper does have in faction Synergies and opens up a few more combos for the unit.
- Kaya3 & Morvahana2 both have fog of war, reliably granting concealment to trigger prowl.
- Celestial Fulcrum grant him (and only him) a +1 to attack rolls.
- Kreuger0 loves these guys. They can teleport him to shoot a key target, he gets bleed power from them & his clouds stack prowl.
- Blackclad infantry can drop clouds for him.
Drawbacks & Downsides
Tricks & Tips
- They're useful to block charge lanes and contest zones, due to their high ARM, boxes, and inability to be moved by anything. Many a game was saved by a stone contesting a zone.
- If one stone dies, they can't teleport other models. But they still can move themselves, so jam them into the enemy.
- Remember you can teleport a model that has already moved. This is especially useful for your warlock since you can play a bit farther forward to cast spells and catch more stuff in a feat but still move them to safety afterwards.
- Keeping them with a beast that is playing forward can be useful, if your opponent can't finish the beast off the stones will be able to fix any damaged aspects, and the beast will be able to use more fury with the stones around. An unsure opponent may commit attacks to the stones potentially saving your beast and giving you more attacks.
Other
Trivia
Other Circle models
Rules Clarifications
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Rules Clarification : Unarmed (Edit)
- Since this model has no weapons it does not have a melee range.
- This means it can't engage other models, declare charges, or make free strikes
- Also it can't gain abilities that require a melee range (such as Ragman granting this model Dark Shroud).
- However, other models that do have melee weapons can engage this model. So this model can still gain the "target in melee" shooting bonus.
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Rules Clarification: : Magical Damage (Edit)
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* The "Damage Type: Magical" is not inherited by "secondary" damage from a weapon. That is, stuff like arcs (Electro Leap) or hazards (Scather). (Infernal Ruling)
- All spells have "Damage Type: Magical" (refer errata).
- This is inherited by "immediate" secondary damage (such as Eruption of Spines). (Infernal Ruling)
- and might be inherited by "lingering" secondary damage (see below).
- If a spell leaves a template in play that does damage to models that walk around in it, then:
- if it is not described as a hazard it will do magical damage to models that walk around in it. (Example: Razor Wall)
- if it is a hazard then it will not do magical damage to models that walk around in it. Instead, it does whatever damage type is specified by the spell description. (Example: Breath of Corruption).
- (Infernal Ruling)
- If a weapon/spell includes Magic Damage and another kind of elemental damage it will still damage Incorporeal models. Incorporeal models are not affected by the rule "if an attack does multiple types of damage and a model is immune to at least one it is immune to the entire attack."
The phrase "immune to non-magical damage" should be interpreted as "immune to damage that doesn't include Damage Type: Magical" (not interpreted as "has immunity to Corrosion and Electricity and Cold and etc.")
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Rules Clarification : Advance Deployment (Edit)
- Sometimes you can attach a WA or CA that doesn't have AD to a unit that does have AD. If you do, the attachment effectively gains AD and they can all advance deploy together. (Locked Thread)
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Rules Clarification : Construct - None yet. (Edit)
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Rules Clarification : Circular Vision (Edit)
- This only prevents the normal bonus afforded from back strikes. It does not prevent things such as Backstab, which simply requires being in the rear arc.
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Rules Clarification : Immovable and/or Immobile and/or Buried (Edit)
- There is no functional difference between "cannot move" and "cannot be moved".
Even if you gain bonus movement (such as Dodge) via a spell or theme benefit, you still can't move. (Locked thread)
- Witchwood only:
- Since the Witchwood doesn't have Normal Movement, it can't gain the Aiming bonus.
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Rules Clarification : Serenity (Edit)
- Each model with Serenity can pick one warbeast to remove fury from, that is within range of the ability. They may pick the same or different warbeasts.
So, for example, a warbeast with 4 Serenity models around it can have 4 fury removed from it. (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Shifting (Edit)
- The Stone Keeper has Shifting too.
- If you choose Shifting, you must place the Stone Keeper and he is forced to suffer Disorientation.
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Rules Clarification : Teleportation (Edit)
- The "Must forfeit its movement" is a penalty, not a requirement.
- You can teleport models that have already activated and used their movement.
- You can teleport models that do not have a movement (ie Wurmwood).
- Since you must forfeit your movement, you cannot gain the Aiming bonus.
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Rules Clarification : Officer (Edit)
- Even if they're not on the Officer's card, an Officer can give (and benefit from) any non-standard orders that are on the unit's card (such as Shield Wall). Refer main rulebook.
- When the Officer dies, the Leader model becomes the new Unit Commander (you don't get to choose).
- But if your unit doesn't include a Leader model, then you do get to choose any of the remaining models to be the new Unit Commander. You don't swap the model, but it may be worth putting a token down so you can tell that grunt apart.
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Rules Clarification : Disorientation (Edit)
- This prevents all advances, so the Stone Keeper can't advance from bonus movements (like Reposition) either.
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Rules Clarification : Tactics vs Granted (Edit)
- Granted = The unit loses the ability as soon as the model that grants it is taken off the table. (think "G for Goes away")
- Tactics = The unit keeps the ability for the entire game, regardless of who dies. (think "Tac-Tick = K for Keeps")
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- Granted [ Vengeance ]
- If the model granting Vengeance dies, the unit will not get any Vengeance attacks.
- It is "If you have Vengeance, and you were damaged last turn, you get a move+attack."
- It is not "If you get damaged, you get Vengeance next turn."
- If you lose Vengeance halfway through resolving Vengeance, then you stop resolving Vengeance immediately. (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Prowl and/or Just a Tree? (Edit)
- Whether you can trigger this ability is a bit awkward;
- As long as you have concealment you get Stealth ... even if the attacker ignores concealment (such as with Hunter).
- If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds for LOS" (such as Bird's Eye) you get Prowl/Tree.
- If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds completely" (such as Alchemical Mask) you don't get it. (Infernal Ruling)
- Similar for standing in a forest.
- If a debuff removes Stealth, Prowl/Tree do not reapply stealth... But this ruling is being rechecked. (Infernal Checking)
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Rules Clarification : Stealth (Edit)
- Stealth models are not invisible and you can target them - you'll just auto-miss most of the time.
- You can target them with a charge.
- You can target them with an AOE, have it auto-miss and scatter, luckily land on top of them anyway, and that will hit them.
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Rules Clarification : Magic Ability (Edit)
- Nearly all Magic Ability spells require the spellcaster to use their Combat Action to cast the spell. As such it is not an "at any time" ability (like it is when warcasters/warlocks cast spells). This means ...
- You must complete your movement before you use a MA.
- A model in a unit cannot use its Combat Action to cast a spell until all members of the unit have completed their movement. (Infernal Ruling)
- You cannot make initial ranged or initial melee attacks on the same turn you use a MA.
- You cannot buy additional melee/ranged attacks after using a MA special attack. Refer to the core rulebook, "Special attacks listed as a rule of the model itself are neither melee attacks nor ranged attacks. The rules for these special attacks indicate the nature of any additional attacks that can be made afterward, if any."
- You cannot use a MA on the same turn you charge. Because a charge must (almost always) be followed by a melee attack.
- There are a few models that can use a Magic Ability without using their Combat Action. These models get around all the restrictions listed above.
- Models with Geomancy or Necromancy can use a Magic Ability at "any time" just like a warcaster/warlock.
- Models with Battle Wizard or Necrophage can make melee attacks then get a bonus "free" spell.
- Models with Combat Caster can cast a spell before charging, then do a normal charge + melee attack.
- Note that Battle Wizards, Combat Casters, etc have the option to use their Combat Action to cast a spell. Their special rule is in addition to the normal spell casting, not instead of.
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Rules Clarification : Rock Hammer - None yet. (Edit)
Rules Clarification : Stone Shield - None yet. (Edit)
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